Kev lig kev cai-nplua nuj clinker Hoobkas Hagemeister, ntawm lub hauv paus ntawm nws cov Academy, tsis tu ncua tuav "clinker rooj cob qhia" (Klinker-Seminar), qhov twg kev xyaum tsim cov tsev clinker, nws txoj kev txhim kho ntxiv, khaws cia kev coj ua ntawm clinker, sib txuas nrog kev zoo nkauj thiab "Kev ruaj khov" hauv cov tsev ua los ntawm clinker. Cov neeg tsim qauv tsim los ntawm thoob plaws lub ntiaj teb no hais lus rau cov neeg tuaj nyeem thoob plaws (txog 500 tus kws kes duab vajtse tuaj mus rau hauv chav kawm), tham txog lawv cov kev paub thiab cov tswv yim ntawm kev ua haujlwm nrog clinker. Tus Hagemeister Seminar muab kev koom tes rau txhua tus neeg tuaj koom nrog kev sib pauv kev pom zoo tsim nyog rau kev txhim kho txuj ci; nws tseem raug lees paub tias yog ib feem ntawm kev kawm txuas ntxiv los ntawm cov kws tsim vaj tsev thoob plaws lub teb chaws (kev kawm txuas ntxiv yog xav tau los ntawm txhua tus kws tsim qauv vaj tsev muaj ntawv tso cai nyob hauv Tebchaws Yelemees). Lub sijhawm kaum peb, ntau tus kws lij choj ntawm German thiab txawv teb chaws ntawm thaj chaw ua yeeb yam tau koom nrog lub rooj sib tham, nthuav qhia cov ntsiab lus hais txog "General Clinker facades".
Nyob rau lub sijhawm kaum xyoo ntawm Hagemeister Clinker Seminar xyoo 2014, cov neeg tuaj koom tau muaj txoj hauv kev los paub txog Lavxias kev paub txog kev ua haujlwm nrog clinker. Tus kws tsim qauv nto moo Sergei Aleksandrovich Skuratov, tus tsim thiab tus thawj coj ntawm Sergei Skuratov ARCHITECTS, tau hais txog cov nplua nuj Lavxias kab lis kev cai ntawm kev tsim cib. Raws li cov piv txwv ntawm kev txhais lus tshiab ntawm cov kab ke no, Sergey Skuratov nthuav qhia rau cov kev kawm mloog nws cov haujlwm uas siv Hagemeister clinker: lub tsev nyob ntawm Burdenko Txoj Kev nrog rau "textured" clinker faadeade thiab thaj chaw loj-loj "Vaj Quarters". Rau nws, "kev ruaj khov" ntawm clinker yog qhov tseeb tsis muaj tseeb: qhov no tau yooj yim los ntawm kev pab cuam lub neej ntev, lub zog siab, kev nqus dej tsawg, thiab kev zoo nkauj ntawm cov nplaim deg ntawm cov khoom siv no. Skuratov tau sau tseg hauv nws tsab ntawv ceeb toom: “Yog tias tus tsim tawm ua haujlwm nrog clinker tsawg kawg ib zaug, nws tsis xav kom nws siv nws. Vim tias clinker ntseeg nws tus kheej, tso cai tsim cov tsev zoo li duab puab. " Tus kws kes duab vajtse ib txwm hais tias kev cib ntsa yog "ib qho khoom siv los daws cov teeb meem yas … ib lub pixel uas koj tuaj yeem ua tau txhua yam nkhaus."
Raws li ib feem ntawm nws qhov kev mus ncig ua si rau Hagemeister kev cob qhia, Sergey Skuratov tau mus xyuas lub tsev khaws keeb kwm dej khov hauv lub nroog Altenberg. Niaj hnub no, lub cellar no ua ib lub tsev khaws khoom hauv xyoo pua 19 ntawm kev tsim kho vaj tse, uas ua rau cov neeg nyiam saib nws zoo li nws lub tsev thaum ub, tshwj xeeb tau muab khaws cia cib. Hauv qhov chaw tshwj xeeb no, tus kws kes duab vajtse tau tham txog nws tus kheej kev sib raug zoo rau clinker, uas yog cov khoom tseem ceeb hauv tsev tsis yog hauv nroog loj thiab nyob deb nroog ntawm Münster koog tsev kawm ntawv, uas Altenberg nyob, tab sis tseem nyob hauv tebchaws Russia.
Xam phaj los ntawm: Sergei Aleksandrovich Skuratov thiab Anastasia Landgraf (Hagemeister, Tus Thawj Coj Muag Khoom)
"Tsim rau cov hnub nyoog"
Anastasia Landgraf:
Sergei Alexandrovich, txais tos rau Altenberg. Tam sim no peb nyob hauv keeb kwm Eiskeller - qhov no yog "dej khov ntawm cov dej khov" ntawm cov npias qub … Cov cellars no tau siv mus txog rau thaum xaus ntawm lub xyoo pua puv 19 rau khaws cov dej khov. Nws yuav nthuav kom paub tias dab tsi ua qhov chaw no tshwj xeeb rau koj?
Sergey Skuratov:
- Qhov chaw no ua rau kuv nco txog lub rooj sab laj Roman, Roman Colosseum. Ib zaug dhau ib lub sijhawm no cov tsev zoo kawg uas tau ua nyob rau qhov zoo ntawm kev muaj peev xwm thiab ntawm qhov xwm txheej ntawm qee yam kev tshawb nrhiav tib neeg. Ntau kev sib zog, kev hlub, lub siab, kev siv zog tau muab tso rau hauv chav tsev no. Nws yog lub siab tu siab uas tsis muaj leej twg xav tau tam sim no, nws tau tig mus rau hauv lub tsev cia puav pheej. Tab sis, pom tseeb, qhov no yog qee yam ntawm hom lus ntawm lub neej, xwm, tib neeg, tias txhua yam uas nyiam thiab muaj nuj nqis rau peb cov neeg yav dhau los tam sim no tsuas yog lub tsev cia puav pheej muaj nuj nqis rau peb.
Cov cwj pwm ntawm tus kheej li cas hauv qab daus no evoke hauv koj?
- Kuv ib txwm qhuas cov vaj tse zoo kawg yav dhau los. Kuv nkag siab hais tias tam sim no tib neeg los ua tsawg dua, thiab tsis muaj ib tug neeg tsim cov tsev loj no.
Cia kuv nug koj ntau dua cov. Lub luag hauj lwm twg ua tus clinker, uas yog ntau dua 150 xyoo, ua si hauv qhov no?
- Kuv xav tias ob qhov xwm txheej thiab ua haujlwm zoo. Thiab nws yog qhov tseeb tias nws tau zoo nkauj thiab tau txias ntawm no, thiab lub cib, nrog kev pab ntawm cov phab ntsa thiab chav tsev tau nteg, yuav tsum muaj zog heev, ruaj khov, tawv tawv, thiab lwm yam. Nws zoo li rau kuv tias noob neej tau tsim clinker ntau pua xyoo dhau los, ntau heev, kuv xav tias, txawm tias cov neeg Loos lawv tus kheej tsis paub tias nws yog clinker, tab sis lawv siv clinker thaum lub sijhawm tsim kho.
Puas yog cov chaw keeb kwm zoo li no hauv qab daus no cuam tshuam koj lub architecture?
- Txhua yam cuam tshuam kuv lub architecture. Txhua yam uas kuv pom thoob plaws hauv kuv lub neej, tshwj xeeb yog qee yam uas ua rau muaj kev xav zoo rau kuv.
Koj lub tswv yim: dab tsi yog qhov sib txawv ntawm qhov cuam tshuam ntawm ntau pua xyoo dhau los ntawm kev kos duab kev tsim kho tshiab thiab cuam tshuam ntawm cov architecture tam sim no?
- Kuv yuav tsis paub qhov txawv ntawm kev cuam tshuam ntawm keeb kwm architecture thiab kev cuam tshuam ntawm niaj hnub. Nws zoo li kuv tias qhov kev cuam tshuam los ntawm cov khoom uas tau ua kom muaj peev xwm heev, muaj txiaj ntsig thiab ntau pua xyoo. Nws tsis muaj teeb meem yog tias nws tau ua tam sim no lossis nws tau ua tiav ntau pua lossis txhiab xyoo dhau los.
Sergei Alexandrovich, koj twb tau nyob ntawm no hauv Münsterland ntau zaus, thiab koj paub cheeb tsam no zoo nrog nws cov tsoos clinker architecture. Dab tsi yog qhov kev xav dav dav ntawm thaj chaw no rau koj?
- Txaus siab heev, qhov zoo, thiab kuv ib txwm nyiam tuaj ntawm no.
Cov ntsiab lus kub: loog thiab txoj kev txhim kho kom ruaj khov
Kuv xav hloov mus rau cov ncauj lus tam sim no xws li kev zoo nkauj thiab kev txhim kho kom ruaj khov. Yuav ua li cas kom paub txog koj cov ntawv sau ua dab tsi, dab tsi ua rau koj lub tsev kos duab txawv?
- Nws zoo li rau kuv tias nws yuav yog qhov tseeb dua los nug cov lus nug no rau cov kws kes duab vajtse uas saib xyuas qhov kuv tau ua. Ib tug kws kes duab vajtse txoj haujlwm yog tsim, xav thiab muaj txiaj ntsig rau tib neeg, zoo li txhua yam haujlwm lwm tus neeg ua. Thiab txhawm rau tshuaj xyuas qhov no yog kev lag luam ntawm lwm tus neeg, ntawm lub sijhawm, tej zaum, hauv thawj qhov chaw.
Cov hom phiaj dab tsi koj tau taw qhia los ntawm hauv koj cov phiaj xwm?
- Ua ntej txhua yam, nws zoo li rau kuv tias nws yog qhov tseem ceeb heev uas cov tswv yim ntawm tus kws kes duab ua ke nrog lub tswv yim ntawm cov haiv neeg uas nws ua haujlwm thiab uas nws ua haujlwm. Thiab qhov no yog qhov tseem ceeb tshaj plaws. Nws zoo rau kuv tias tus nqi ntawm tib neeg, kev sib raug zoo ntawm tib neeg, tib neeg kev noj qab haus huv thiab kev muaj peev xwm nyob tau zoo siab yog, ntawm lwm yam, lub luag haujlwm thiab lub luag haujlwm ntawm tus kws kes duab vajtse.
Sergey Alexandrovich, koj tshwj xeeb los ntawm Moscow los nyeem ob daim ntawv qhia ntawm peb qhov kev ua haujlwm ntawm architectural, uas tau muaj nyob hauv cov ntsiab lus "Kev Zoo Nkauj thiab Txhawb Kev Ncaj Ncees". Kuv vam tias koj yuav tsis xav tsis thoob tias peb tshwj xeeb nyob hauv cov lus nug, koj pom li cas qhov tseem ceeb ntawm clinker hauv kev zoo nkauj thiab kev txhim kho hauv kev tsim qauv hauv vaj tse zoo?
- Teb rau thawj lo lus nug txog kev zoo nkauj, nws zoo li kuv tias clinker yog cov khoom siv zoo heev, vim nws muaj qhov ua kom dav dav, uas yog thaj chaw ntawm cov ntaub ntawv uas tso cai rau kuv daws qee yam ntawm kuv cov teeb meem. Thiab qhov no yog cov khoom siv zoo nkauj heev. Thiab kev zoo nkauj ntawm cov khoom siv no, hauv kuv lub tswv yim, yog qhov tsis txaus ntseeg rau cov neeg sawv cev ntawm txhua tus yam ntxwv stylistic, tastes, thiab lwm yam. Raws li rau kev txhim kho kom ruaj khov, qhov tseeb tias clinker yog twb muaj ntau txhiab xyoo thiab tias cov khoom siv no siv tau ntev heev, nws zoo li kuv tau hais tias qhov no yog qhov kev lees paub feem ntau. Thiab cov khoom ntiag tug ntawm cov khoom siv no yaum ntau tus neeg ua tsev, tsim khoom, tus tsim qauv thiab cov neeg yuav khoom siv. Nws zoo li kuv tias cov khoom siv no tsis tas yuav muaj kev tshaj tawm tshwj xeeb.
Qhia peb me ntsis txog koj lub tebchaws. Yuav ua li cas ib qho tseem ceeb yog kev txhim kho kom ruaj khov hauv kev tsim kab lis kev cai hauv tebchaws Russia?
- Vim tias qee qhov tshwj xeeb ntawm txoj kev txhim kho geopolitical ntawm peb lub tebchaws, peb tau tshawb pom ntau roj thiab roj ntau, thiab thaum tus nqi rau roj thiab roj ntau heev, tom qab ntawd tsuas yog cov neeg to taub tias tsis ntev lossis tom qab nws yuav yuav tsum tau nqis tes yuav xav txog kev txhim kho kom ruaj khov mus rau hauv cov qauv ntawm cov dej num ntawm txhua tus neeg nyob hauv thaj chaw uas tau muab rau. Tam sim no lub ntsiab lus no muaj qee yam kev pib lossis tus cwj pwm xaiv, tab sis saib seb qhov no tau tshwm sim hauv Tebchaws Europe, ntau thiab ntau tus neeg los ntawm cov ceg sib txawv ntawm peb lub neej, peb cov haujlwm tau xav txog qhov teebmeem no. Thiab cov kws ua vaj tsev, hauv qhov kev nkag siab no, tsis muaj kev zam.
Lub luag hauj lwm ntawm clinker hauv cov mob no yog dab tsi? Muaj tseeb koj twb muaj ntau lub tswv yim yuav ua li cas siv cov khoom tshwj xeeb ntawm clinker hauv yav tom ntej-taw qhia, kev txhim kho lub tsev txuas ntxiv? Koj puas tuaj yeem qhia peb txog qee yam ntawm lawv?
- Rau kuv, clinker yog ib qho ntawm cov khoom tsim nyog tshaj plaws kom paub txog lub tswv yim hais tias architecture yog khov puab lossis puab hom puab. Thiab zoo li txhua tus duab puab, nws yog tsim los ntawm ib cov ntaub ntawv, zoo li cov duab puab puab. Thiab yog li ntawd, clinker tso cai rau koj los ua yuav luag txhua lub dav hlau ntawm ib lub tsev: lub ru tsev, tiv thaiv lub qhov rooj bay, phab ntsa, tshem tawm lub ceil - ua los ntawm cov thwv cib, txhua qhov chaw tiv thaiv, uas niaj hnub raug dej. Nws yuav nyuaj los ntawm cov khoom sib txawv, koj yuav tsum siv cov khoom sib txawv rau cov chaw sib txawv: hlau, pob zeb, plaster, thiab lwm yam. Lub clinker tso cai rau koj los tsim kev ua kom zoo nkauj nrog ib qho khoom siv. Rau qhov no kuv yeej nyiam nws.
Khoom siv: clinker
Thiab yog tias koj saib ntawm tus clinker cem, nws yog dab tsi nws tsis muaj zog lossis kev txwv?
- Tej zaum qhov kev txwv tsis muaj zog ntawm cov khoom siv no tseem yog nws cov nuj nqis siab hauv kev piv rau cov cib zoo tib yam, kev siv nyiaj txiag ntau rau nws cov khoom lag luam thiab, raws li, qhov no txwv nws siv rau qee qhov haujlwm uas kev lag luam ua ntej. Kuv xav tias yog peb txuas ntxiv qee qhov kev tshawb fawb hauv kev ua teb ntawm nws cov khoom, ces peb tuaj yeem nrhiav qee cov qauv thiab kev los txo cov nqi ntawm nws ntau lawm. Txawm hais tias qhov no yog lus nug rau cov tuam ntxhab nkaus xwb.
Txog tam sim no, peb tau hais txog clinker feem ntau. Koj tau ntsib Christian Hagemeister thiab nws tsev neeg-tswv lag luam clinker li cas?
- Kuv xav tias koj qhia kuv rau nws.
Dab tsi ua rau koj txiav txim siab los siv Hagemeister clinker hauv koj qhov Vaj Haujlwm Quarters?
- Ua ntej, Peb tau pib nrog txoj haujlwm me me - lub tsev me me nyob rau ntawm Burdenko Street. Peb xav tias nws dhau thiab sim rau ib lub sijhawm ntev heev. Thaum qhov txiaj ntsig tau dhau tag nrho peb cov kev cia siab, kuv lub siab xav nrog cov neeg tau lees paub tias cov khoom siv no tuaj yeem siv, thiab nws yog, pom tau tias, zoo tshaj plaws hauv thaj chaw no.
Koj pom dab tsi tshwj xeeb tshwj xeeb ntawm Hagemeister cog thiab nws cov khoom lag luam?
- Kuv tsis paub ntau cov clinker factories, tej zaum ib nrab os. Tab sis lub peculiarity ntawm no cov nroj tsuag tshwj xeeb yog qhov sib zog ua haujlwm los tsim qee cov khoom tshiab thiab qee lub zog muaj zog ntawm nws lub taub hau. Nws zoo li kuv tias nws yog tus kws sim muaj kev txaus siab, nws yog qhov tsim nyog kom tsim ib co qauv tshiab nrog nws. Tsis ntev los no, kuv twb pom muaj qhov tsim ntawm yuav luag ntau lub cib tshiab, duab duab tshiab, xim tshiab. Hais txog peb txoj kev koom tes, peb muaj qee cov ntsiab lus tshawb nrhiav zoo heev.
Lub neej yav tom ntej: clinker yuav tsum
Yog tias koj kos kab, puas yog clinker cov khoom ntawm lub neej yav tom ntej?
- Nws yog qhov nyuaj rau kuv los npaj rau lub neej tom ntej, tab sis nws zoo li rau kuv tias 50 xyoo tom ntej no yog li ntawd.
Koj puas muaj qhov kev xav ntawm tus kheej rau lwm tiam clinker? Nws xav tau dab tsi?
- Qhia nyuaj. Kuv xav tias lub ntsiab lus tseem ceeb heev yog nws txoj kev them taus rau cov neeg siv khoom ntau. Nws yog qhov zoo heev thaum koj tsav hla cov av no thiab pom tias yuav luag txhua lub tsev muaj peev xwm ua cov clinker. Thiab nws zoo. Thiab koj nkag siab tias cov tib neeg uas nyob hauv cov tsev no yuav tsis kho lawv, tej phab ntsa rau 100-200 tom ntej, tej zaum 300 xyoo. Thiab qhov no zoo nkauj heev. Nov yog qhov kev pom ntawm tus kws kes duab vajtse, vim tias koj yuav tsum tsim rau ntau pua xyoo, thiab dhau mus rau qee yam uas twb tau tsim rau koj cov menyuam thiab xeeb leej xeeb ntxwv. Lawv tuaj yeem rov ua qhov kev lag luam no ib qho twg, tab sis lub hauv paus tseem ceeb twb muaj lawm. Muaj qee qhov tseeb ntawm lub neej yav tom ntej hauv no. Clinker muab qhov kev ntseeg siab no rau yav tom ntej, uas nws yuav nyob tas mus li, rau sijhawm ntev heev, xijpeem.
Sergey Alexandrovich, sawv cev rau Hagemeister tsev neeg, cov neeg ua haujlwm ntawm peb cov cog thiab cov kws ua vaj tsev uas tau koom nrog lub rooj cob qhia, Kuv xav ua tsaug ua tsaug hauv qab ntawm kuv lub siab rau kev siv sijhawm los teb cov lus nug uas peb xav tau. Peb cia siab tias yuav tos txais koj rov qab rau lub teb chaws Yelemees sai sai
- Ua tsaug, Kuv cia siab ib yam nkaus.
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